Show Me The Money: Why Your Dog Doesn’t Listen, Unless You’re Holding Food

Show Me The Money: Why Your Dog Doesn’t Listen, Unless You’re Holding Food

Today, I want to talk about one of the most common struggles I see with my behavior clients and their dogs.  Often, they’ve been through a basic obedience class or two, and their pup has learned a few skills.  But when they try to apply them in real life, they quickly run into a road block:

“Buster is so stubborn!  He only listens if I have a treat.”

Or, more broadly in casual conversations or online discussions:

“You know, that’s the problem with positive training.  Unless you have food in your hand, forget it!  The dog won’t do anything you say.”

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First, let me say that I can absolutely sympathize with the frustration many dog owners feel about this!  It’s aggravating to put in the time and effort of attending a weekly class, or setting aside training time at home, only to feel like you haven’t made any kind of useful progress at getting your dog to listen.

In class, with a piece of cheese in your hand?  Sure!  But anyplace else, outside of an obvious training context… nothing.

It’s the kind of thing that gives reward-based training a bad name, which is unfortunate.  And sadly, it’s all too common.

But, here’s the good news.

It’s easy to avoid!  And if your dog already has “show me the money!” syndrome, it’s also pretty darned easy to fix. 😊

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So first, let’s take a look at why this problem is so common.

Oftentimes, the progression of training a skill like “sit” goes something like this:

We use a treat to lure the dog into a sitting position -> praise and reward.  So far, so good!  In class, with hot dog slices or pieces of chicken, the dog sits beautifully. 

The dog knows the behavior now… right?  Time to start using it in daily life!

Now, we start asking the dog to sit at random times around the house, or outside on a walk.  No treats are forthcoming.  Before long, the dog completely ignores us.

But in class, those sits are still looking great! 

So what gives? 

In fact, when we approach training this way, we inadvertently teach our dogs that it only pays to listen if they see the treats up front.  They’re not being stubborn or willful – they’re just doing what makes sense, given the contingencies we’ve taught them.

Look at it from the dog’s perspective:

Scenario 1: Mom (or dad) has treats in her hand.  She cues “sit!” -> dog sits, and gets a reward.

Scenario 2: No treats visible.  Mom cues “sit!” -> dogs sits, and gets nothing.

Those are the only two scenarios the dog has ever seen.  If treats are visible beforehand, he gets a reward 100% of the time.  So of course, he complies!  But if NO treats are visible, he gets a reward 0% of the time.

So why bother sitting, in that case?

When we train this way, we’re skipping a critical step in the process: teaching the dog that a reward is still available, even if he doesn’t see it up front!

To avoid this problem, we need to fill in the gap.

Once your dog has learned to sit with a food lure and hand signal, try putting the treats in your pocket, or on a table nearby – and cue the sit again.  He may look confused at first.  This is normal!  If he needs help, try luring him into a sit with the same hand motion you were using before.

When he finally sits, praise and GIVE A TREAT from your pocket, or the nearby bag on the table. 

Once he’s got the hang of things, try randomly asking for a sit around the house, outside of a formal training session.  Again, help your pup with a hand signal if you need to.  When he sits, tell him he’s brilliant and surprise him with a treat!  To make this easier, I normally recommend keeping a few shelf-stable snacks in your pocket, or stashing bags strategically around the house for easy access whenever you need them.

Eventually, you’ll be able to start skipping the treats every now and then, or substituting other “life rewards” for compliance when your dog does what you ask – things like going out the door for a walk, or putting down his dinner bowl, or being released to hop out of the car at the park.  But don’t rush this.  For quite a while, focus on convincing your dog that you always come through with a reward… even if he doesn’t see one.

What does the finished product of this kind of training look like, you might ask?

With my own dogs, I do try to keep some treats handy most of the time in case I want to grab them for a quick reward.  So if we’re out for a walk, and my dog snatches a piece of trash from the gutter, I can say “drop it!” – then reward with a snack from my coat pocket when he eagerly spits it out.  I don’t need to rustle a treat bag to get his attention, or wave a piece of cheese under his nose.  He trusts that when I ask him to “drop it,” I’ll come through with something better.

And if I don’t, on occasion – it’s no big deal.  We have enough trust built up that he’ll still listen, next time.

The same is true for other important life skills.  My boys can sit and stay, load up politely in the car, and come back when I call them.  If I’ve asked them to do something difficult and I have treats handy, I’ll give a reward.  But they never know ahead of time whether they’ll get something or not – and that’s why they always (or almost always!) listen.

There’s nothing magic about any of this, and it doesn’t take any particular skill on the part of the trainer – it’s just the science of behavior at work! 

So if your dog ignores you unless there’s a treat in your hand, don’t despair.  He’s not being stubborn, or naughty.  You just need to help him understand that it’s worth his while to pay attention.


8 thoughts on “Show Me The Money: Why Your Dog Doesn’t Listen, Unless You’re Holding Food

  1. Couldn’t have come at a better time. I am in week 3 of teaching a Pet Dog Manners Class and this is just the conversation I need to have with my students. Very helpful.

  2. Use two handed approach where the dog never receives the lure (if using one), instead the treat comes from opposite hand and this treat is not seen until the dog gives the correct response. soon as dog learns verbal and visual -generalize as Dr. Jen explained-practicing in different contexts, including your body in different context ie tying your shoe and asking for a sit. Rewards can come intermittently. Keep in mind even if your dog knows a cue -if you change environment, surface you work on etc you may have to go back to early steps of training initially. (dog do not generalize very well).

  3. I do not believe in using treats for training only for motivating a behavior change then remove it. Dogs trained for AKC obedience do not use treats and dogs trained for handicap people do not use treats or police work. The reason being is you need to know the dog understands the words and the action and with treats you do not get that even if you use the other hand to give the treat. It cause the dog to have more stress using treats then not using treats but praise all dogs love praise and petting from their person.

    1. Many people who train in obedience and other dog sports certainly use treats (and other rewards). Where I live, police dogs and service dogs are trained using food, toys and praise.

  4. The problem is treat and science based trainers do not understand the subtle energy language of dogs. This means they they do not teach their clients how dogs actually communicate with each other or the subtle energy language of leadership. Not domination- simple clear boundaries. So when you don’t have a treat your dog does not listen because you used the treat as the connection between you and not the energy which is what dogs actually understand.

    In addition, they refuse to acknowledge that humans are the only animals that train using treats. And they call this science. It’s not science as No other species on the planet does this. And it’s certainly not natural. It’s made up human science because you get results. But not the actual results that naturally make a good dog great because of great leadership but results that make many dogs hyperadrenal and turn them into selective listeners because you are training them from bribery ( essentially) and not clear boundaries.

    So how do Animals train without treats? Energy and body language.

    And this is something that science and positive dogs trainers refuse to even acknowledge. Positive reinforcement does not need to equal a treat.

    I am a natural dog trainer who works with. Positive reinforcement and is continually correcting your fallout because you don’t teach how dogs actually communicate or what is actually natural.

    Happy to educate on authentic dog language needing no dominance and no treats.

    Graciously.

    Allecia Evans

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